And so that’s going to lead to more money, which would then make you more attractive on a website.
The other thing is looks matter a lot, but it turns out that weight doesn’t matter that much independent of looks.
Finally, the economist Justin Wolfers points out one of the most revolutionary benefits of online dating — finding matches in traditionally “thin” markets: WOLFERS: So I do think it’s a really big deal for young gay and lesbian men and women in otherwise homophobic areas. And I imagine this is true in other ethnic communities. REED: Well, one thing I wanted to make clear is that she’s not just a bad person, she wants to ruin your life. Money, my car, my phone, keeping America American, my family, and my friends, and Aaron Carter. So my goal at that point became to convince them that she is just awful. If they asked what I was doing I said I was pretending to be a 14 year old on Facebook so I could bully my sister’s friends. With a lot of guys I could just, I wrote gibberish, just pounded on keyboard for a minute and sent it and the vast majority of them responded with that sounds great, what are you doing on Friday? REED: Actually, I found that a deal breaker for me was messaging Aaron Carter Fan.
And certainly there are, it’s enormously easy to match on very, very specific sexual preferences. So under the section “what I am really good at” the only thing she lists is “convincing people I’m pregnant.” DUBNER: LOL at the end of it. DUBNER: And how many dates did you have then out of Aaron Carter Fan fishing? [THEME] ANNOUNCER: From WNYC: This is FREAKONOMICS RADIO, the podcast that explores the hidden side of everything. [MUSIC: The Diplomats of Solid Sound, “The Cuber Bake” (from Let’s Cool One)] DUBNER: We’re talking today about online dating.
My female friends and my male friends all feel that this is true, like that men in New York and in cities where my friends live, everyone can actually feel these market forces and we talk about them. And I often imagine that I wish that I were from…I always think of the suburb that I’m from where most of the people are not like me like cultural attitudes or whatever.
Also, you’ll learn just how awful a person can be and, if you’re attractive enough, still reel in the dates. [MUSIC: The Mackrosoft, “The Game In F# Minor” (from Antonio’s Giraffe)] DUBNER: So you set up a profile, and your name is what? [AARON CARTER MUSIC] REED: And there is just no substance there in his music at all. [MUSIC: Seks Bomba, “It Takes Two to Tango” (from Somewhere In This Town)] DUBNER: So you created a profile for a girl named Aaron Carter’s Fan who likes to party and knock over homeless people, or at least their cups, and she’s a racist, gold digging, fake pregnant-getting, 25 year old girl, white girl. I asked my friend Rae Johnston, who is an Australian-based model and actress, if I could raid her Facebook photos and she very kindly said yes.So here’s the question: does all of Oyer’s knowledge translate into actual wisdom? DUBNER: Vogt and Oyer sat down with Suzie Lechtenberg, a producer on our show. [MUSIC: Christopher Norman, “Word of Prey” (from EP3)] DUBNER: Now, as Paul Oyer sees it, the most important first step in online dating is to know exactly what you’re trying to get out of it. OYER: Okay, so as I look at what you’ve got here, well, before we even look at it we have to stop and think about the first thing an economist is going to do is think about supply and demand. tend to swing much more towards more available women.In other words – is he any good at giving actual online dating advice? Suzie LECHTENBERG: PJ, do you feel like you want to read a few of the –… so we’re looking at my OKCupid profile, which I don’t know why this is as embarrassing as it is…but it’s got a few picture of me, which I’ve tried to make, like, pictures that are flattering, but not like too flattering. VOGT: Okay, so like it says the six things I could never do without. LECHTENBERG: And what do you spend a lot of your time thinking about? It’s Barthes Simpson, but it’s Barthes spelled like Roland Barthes, like the theorist. LECHTENBERG: So spell it, spell the whole name out for us. OYER: As an economist I can’t help but think we have to start with your objective function. So I don’t know if you realize this, but you’re in a great position. We have an oversupply of men relative to women, at least compared to other cities. So you’re in a good position from a competitive point of view.Transcript: Alli REED: I had been personally on OKCupid on and off for a few years… REED: I actually, believe it or not, did not want to meet any of these men in real life. Alli Reed wrote a fake OKCupid profile for a really good-looking 25-year-old woman who also happened to be a racist, gold-digging, fake-pregnant-getting nightmare – and she got almost 1,000 replies. OYER: Just to give you one statistic that comes from the OKCupid blog, and I’m quoting here, “A hot woman receives roughly four times the messages an average-looking woman gets and 25 times as many as an ugly one.” And then there’s this interesting superstar effect where the very hottest 5 percent of men get twice as many emails as men who are just below that, who are more like the 10th percentile, amount the 10th percentile most attractive, but not among the very top 5 percent. I had the profile up for two or three weeks, and she got close to 1000 men message her.Recently I’ve been learning to not jam all my words together in a mush so that old people can hear me better on the radio. Like you feel like you’re bragging about being a Vespa guy, whatever that, and that’s not a good thing. So you’re in a good position for two other reasons, and that is the male/female differential I just mentioned is going to swing much more in your favor over the next 10 years.So you’re under no pressure to hook up for a long-term relationship right now. The other thing is just more generally, aside from your gender, the fact that you’re 28 years old from an economist point of view means that you should be very picky. [MUSIC: Christopher Norman, “Word of Prey” (from EP3)] DUBNER: So Paul Oyer is telling PJ Vogt that PJ is in pretty good shape, dating wise.So that makes sense that women should be more attracted to money than men to begin with. So someone to hang out with and if it turns into more that’s good?[MUSIC: Two Dark Birds, “Run For Daylight”] DUBNER: Okay, so Paul Oyer knows a good bit about the rules of attraction in online dating – which, if you think about it, is just dating with a much bigger pool and a much better filter. He lives in New York, and he’s a producer at the public-radio show “On The Media,” and he co-hosts a podcast called “TLDR.” And PJ is a brave, brave soul – because he let us open up his Ok Cupid profile and pick it apart, on the radio: OYER: Have you been told before that you look like Ryan from The Office? I’ve been told I look like Andy from the office, which I take as a dig… VOGT: Yeah, option value sounds like a good way to put it.So an overweight person who is otherwise medium attractive will do almost as well as a medium attractive person who is not overweight. And what about men’s preferences versus women’s preferences?OYER: Men, on the other hand, care a lot less about income.